The Consumer Backdrop Is Stronger Than Headlines Suggest (Podcast)

Most investors wait for perfect clarity before making a move. Markets rarely give you that.

About a month ago, our managing partner Richard Consul, CFA, made a timely point on the In the Harbor podcast: the consumer backdrop was still stronger than many headlines suggested.

He also argued that the market pullback may have been an opportunity to deploy some of the cash still sitting on investors’ balance sheets.

Since then, markets have moved toward that view. Looking into the next quarter, the thesis still holds.

Despite elevated geopolitical uncertainty and the recent spike in oil prices, the underlying fundamentals have not materially changed.

Unemployment is around 4.2%. Continuing claims remain near historically low levels. Real wages are still growing. Productivity remains strong. In other words, we are not seeing the kind of consumer weakness that typically signals a deeper economic breakdown.

The key question is whether higher oil prices become a sustained drag or remain a temporary shock.

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Episode transcript (excerpt)

“As long as we don’t have oil prices that stay sustained at a high level, which fractures consumer discretionary, I think the underlying aspects of the consumer are as strong as we’ve seen – 4.2% unemployment, lowest levels on continuing claims that we’ve seen historically, real wage growth, productivity. All of these things at very high levels are typically really good barometers for the health of the consumer. As long as this war doesn’t drag on and oil prices don’t continue upwards, I think this might be a great opportunity to be deploying some of that cash.”

Richard Consul, CFA | Mitch Vermet, CFA, CAIA

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Meet Mitch Vermet,

CFA, CAIA
Managing Director
Our other Managing Director, Mitch Vermet, CFA, CAIA, has a decade of experience in institutional asset management and investment banking. He has served as an integral asset within close-knit investment teams responsible for building portfolios and allocating tactical assets for over $30 billion in institutional capital.
Since earning a BA in Economics from the University of Michigan and an MA in Management from the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan, Mr. Vermet has demonstrated mastery in helping clients manage and structure their balance sheets with strategic asset liability management solutions. He has built a reputation for helping clients strategically manage risk while capitalizing on opportunities across unique macroeconomic scenarios, lending valuable expertise and foresight to clients.  

Mr. Vermet is a member of the CFA Institute and CAIA Association. He is also a Registered Representative of BA Securities, LLC, and a member of FINRA and SIPC.

Meet Richard Consul,

CFA
Managing Director
Richard Consul, CFA, brings unmatched expertise and experience as one of our Managing Directors. Mr. Consul has over 20 years of domestic and international secondary market expertise as a Senior Portfolio Manager and Fixed Income, Currency, and Commodities Strategist.
Since earning a BBA in Finance and an MSE in Financial Engineering from the University of Michigan, Mr. Consul has served as a dedicated business partner to many corporate, banking, and insurance clients. He has built a reputation for helping clients solve and overcome various complex liquidity, risk management, ALM, and secondary market challenges. 
Mr. Consul has lent his expertise to countless financial publications and platforms, including Asset TV, a renowned video research platform for investment professionals. He is a member of the CFA Institute and has received certifications in Securities Industry Essentials (SIE), Series 82, and Series 63 through FINRA.